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Farrell for California Governor / Your FEEDBACK / NonViolent Action Resumes Oct 1.
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This is a message from a mailing list, members@kids-right.org Unsubscribe instructions at bottom of message. ====================================================================== Good People & People of Faith: This message contains info on: 1. Family Reform Candidate for California Governor - Dr. Warren Farrell 2. NonViolent Action Resumes - Wednesday, October 1st (1:30PM) - bring Love. 3. Your FEEDBACK - thoughts on NonViolent Action and "bad parenting." 4. Your Letter - yes, we can take your kids and do what we want. Thank you. 5. The Lighter Side - how do men think? do men think? men think? think? 1. Family Reform Candidate for California Governor - Dr. Warren Farrell ----------------------------------------------------------------------- We will be sending a few questions to this candidate and hope to share his answers with list members (send yours in right away and we will try to send them along also). You can check his web site at: http://www.warrenfarrell.com/ There is a schedule posted and you may have a chance to meet him personally at upcoming events. Please review his resume. He is a best selling author and has been involved in "gender" issues for very many years. He is listed on the ballot as a "Father's Issues Author." His platform calls for: 1. a men's birth control pill and a paternity fraud bill; 2. universal prenatal care; 3. listening skills taught from first grade, with simultaneous retraining of parents; 4. equal father and mother involvement, especially if there is divorce; 5. more male teachers; 6. stressing female empowerment rather than victim power 7. keeping taxes on businesses low 8. schools that are friendlier to boys; 9. a commission on the status of men and men's health 10. restraining the Government-as-Substitute-Husband What do the mothers and fathers out there think? Is a "fathers" platform key for a candidate concerned with family law reform? About half of our group's members are mothers -- would you vote for him? News reports said several Father's groups held a rally with him -- what exactly does he stand for? I guess it would be fair to expect a substantial draft of what he would propose in California Family Law. How and when would "equality" be maintained through divorce? What about social services and "child protective" agencies. Is their interference in family life an issue for the candidate? We hope to have his thoughts on these matters soon! He has certainly brought great exposure to the need for reform and hopefully we can all learn from his candidacy. He's a good man. If our issue is "Civil Rights", how is that best brought forth in a political campaign? 2. NonViolent Action Resumes - Wednesday, October 1st (1:30PM), bring Love. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I regret the delay since August 4th. I work at a computer company. We have a small staff and I am one of the two senior administrators. The other administrator left suddenly for other employment (which happens), but it fell to me to help find and train a replacement. My mom (87), also had a series of appointments for medical tests to confirm/deny the results of other blood work -- very, very fortunate that everything came back fine! We will be traveling to see Domenic the weekend of Sep. 19th. -- then starting the effort again. (last message below). I do not think there is a lot to say here. I'll be going back to the Federal building on Oct 1st. I've come to more and more realize the only thing that motivates me to keep this up is the love I have for my son, Domenic. It has been a "practical" lesson to me about what it takes to volunteer personal sacrifice. Being angry at other people or the system in general is not going to do it. You need to love, and we are all blessed with some of the best motivation in the world, our children. Hope to see some of you there! P.S. If you want more details, or can't make and want to help, call Senator Clinton's office, fax them a personal note. Their contact info is at the web site, http://www.AKidsRight.Org/actionc_syr John Murtari, jmurtari@AKidsRight.Org 3. Your FEEDBACK & Letters -------------------------- The following is feedback from a recent list message: http://www.kids-right.org/archive/archive2003/0026.html --- Kathleen Besch <bizoppcity@yahoo.com> > When I first ran across you on the internet some time ago I wondered > how you could do what you do. I have never been a violent person > unlike some of my family members in fact most of them. I learned > early that violence does not pay because even if you win you lose > something inside your own soul. > I am trying to teach that to my grand daughter and so far she has > listened. We hurt every day with pain and grief that goes far beyond > anything a human even thinks possible and has caused severe health > problems and two heart attacks for me but I know somehow somewhere we > will get those babies even though rights have been terminated. She > did nothing to lose her children but thru someone else's lies she lost > them. > I now understand even more how right this non violent movement is > because in the long run you keep your soul clear and they will have to > face God's judgment for their part in hurting the children and > yourself. If we are to judge the saints which the word says we will > how much more so the ones who hurt children? > I pray you will not go to jail. LOVE is a powerful thing and when you > are punished for love it is righteousness that is being punished. > This world calls righteousness evil but God is the winner and always > will be. So go in love and love will see you through. WE pray for > you. --- TLSAssoc@aol.com (Tammy) > It's been awhile since I have replied, but I have not forgotten, and > unless I go comatose, will never forget the way the evil government > workers are being permitted to destroy our families for their father > Satan. I will also not change my mind that reform is not an acceptable > solution. The government sanctioned terrorists (CPS) must be stopped > as would any other terrorist organization be under fire. > Read the book of Joshua to see what God told His people to do. There > are many other references in God's Word as well validating war against > the oppressors. Don't get me wrong, I too would much rather see a > peaceful solution, but while peaceful demonstrations are being held, > children are being murdered by our government, families are being > destroyed by the same government which is supposed to "do no harm." > The only acceptable/working peaceful solution is to pray that God will > make us all strong enough to endure to the end, and allow us to be > victorious over our enemies. Amen. Tammy I used to be a pilot in the Air Force. Yes, I quite agree, there are times when fighting is necessary, there are times when dying is necessary. I do not think this is one of those times at all. We are all parents who love our children, who want the ability to stay involved in our children's lives. This is an issue of Civil Rights and what is required, is personal sacrifice -- and that we don't seem to have yet? So many people are angry at CPS, the Judges, the Lawyers, the former spouses -- the love gets lost in the anger. Anger is poor motivation when sustained personal sacrifice is necessary. ... many parents are not quite willing to make personal sacrifice, victims rarely are. When we have parents willing to sacrifice a little freedom, spend a night in jail - NOT because they are angry with someone, but because they love their children -- we will have the start of a movement. ---------------------------------- The following feedback was in response to a message about "what is a bad parent?" http://www.kids-right.org/archive/archive2003/0024.html --- "Ken Wiebe" <kwiebe@fathers.bc.ca> > You are on the right track. I like the way you have explained the > differences between "poor" parenting and actual "harm" or abuse. I > also like the way that you have explained that people change their > parenting role as circumstances change, and it is absurd for the > courts to try and impose a pre-divorce division of parental labor onto > post-divorce parents. > That is what the "primary care-giver" doctrine is all about, > court-ordered forcing of parents to maintain a pre-divorce division of > labor when it is no longer sensible or good for the children and > parents. > Anyway, keep up the good work and you are definitely doing the right > things. If I lived closer, I would "walk" with you. > Ken Wiebe, BC Fathers, http:\\www.fathers.bc.ca --- "Del Parker" <irishcoins2000@hotmail.com> > ... take exception respectfully with your section on "...unless you a bad > parent". this is one more argument that needs to go away the power to > say you are a "bad parent" is the power to deny your access to your > child and the power will not be overcome your seeing child somehow > because you are deemed a "good parent" is throwing us a bone. > ... if Jesus uses the example of "bad fathers" imparting "good gifts" > to their children "that ask" or are in relation with their earthly > father it is a remark about the very nature of "bad fathers" i believe > it is a characterization that needs be left to the criminal courts. > if the parent is guilty of a crime execute him but if this is being > used for control freak dv womens rites advocates to shrill louder to > hillary, then stand your ground your petitioning your senator for > redress is constitutional freedom access to the paths leading to that > petitioning need to be made clear for you. --- "Robert Kearns" <bob_49_16648@hotmail.com> > Sorry John, judges ignoring the law, not following the rules, and not > honoring their sworn oaths to uphold the constitution is dead wrong > and like being a little bit pregnant. Judges that violate their > judicial responsibilities need to be held accountable for their > unethical and sometimes criminal actions. Impeachment of corrupt > elected government officials is a constitutional avenue of redress > available to the individual citizen. Once enough legitimate > Impeachment Petitions are filed before the state legislatures only > then will the system puppets get the message that we are tired and > weary of being abused by the judicial branch of our government. Thanks for the message and I quite agree with what you say. I took action for judicial misconduct against Judge Major because he didn't do his job. A lot of us don't do our jobs at times (even me). People need to be corrected and punished if necessary. But I think we both make a distinction between failing at our jobs and being "bad" people, somehow not worthy of common courtesy and respect. 4. Your Letters - yes, we can take your kids and do what we want. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- estrangedad@yahoo.com (David Poff) > I want a Constitutional Amendment with a Family Bill of Rights. I > have a lot to contribute, just need to be in the right place to do it. > Tell me more about who you are and where you're going... You may be very right about the need for a Constitutional Amendment to reform family law. Right now we have a draft Family Rights Act at the site, http://www.AKidsRight.Org/act.htm -- which is a first shot and getting Federal changes/awareness. The Civil Rights Act corrected much of the problems with segregation (and was upheld by courts). Obviously, if the Civil Rights act had been overturned, many people would have then pressed for Constitutional Amendment. The same may happen here. [ AS YOU READ the following message this same question is presented in more practical terms. One of the issues below is "drugs" and that bothers a lot of people. Perhaps try replacing it with "smoking", after all do we really want your kids to breath second hand smoke? If you are convicted of a simple DWAI (without the kids in the car), should we really leave the kids in your care? These could be the next standards of "abuse" - Ed.] --- jodyfitzwaterkuhlman@webtv.net (Jody Kuhlman) > Comments:: Please I need someone to help me, and I don't know where to > turn. My story began in April of this year I was nine months pregnant > with my youngest son Cole and the Department of Human Services came > knocking at my door. Someone had turned me in for meth use so they > demanded a urine and hair sample. Before the test came back I went > into labor and delivered Cole be c section during the time I was in > the hospital my test results came back positive for meth and pot. > The protective worker came to the hospital and told me the only way > they would release Cole to my custody, and would not put my three > older sons in foster care was if I enter a long term in patient > treatment center in Ottumwa Iowa for women and children, so I went, > Myself and my two youngest sons. I left my two oldest sons with my mom > so they could finish out the school year. > I was there for about a month and my husband (that has never done a > drug in his life and is a police officer) and I decided he would > take the boys and I would go to a 28 day treatment center. The > conditions of the treatment center I was in were unclean and unsafe > and I just didn't feel drug and alcohol treatment is where my kids > needed to be. My husband came and got me and all of the children and I > came home with him to await an evaluation for a treatment in Des > Moines the following week. > Well the day before my eval we had to go to court and there the > department of human services made recommendations to the court that > the children and I be placed back in the treatment center in ottumwa, > stating they didn't know anything about my husband, they called him a > disinterested father because he had been absent for close to a year > because his unit was one of the first reserve units called to duty > after 9/11, so they would not recommend placement with him without a > psychosocial eval. > I don't understand how they could do that considering there are no > allegations against my husband and I would think unless they had some > evidence that he was not a good father -- which he is -- he had the > right to have his children. My attorney advised me if I didn't agree > to the recommendations my children might be placed in foster care ---- later message from Jody (9/14): > If you can give me any help at all, DHS came and removed my children > last week placing 2 in one home and 2 in another, sighting they were > in immediate danger from me based on the UA taken on Aug 4 they are > lending no credibility to their own hair test that shows me negative > for the last 90 days. I even offered to leave the home if the children > would be allowed to stay with my husband (a provision Iowa law does > allow for). > My husband told my case worker because of the degrading way she has > treated us she would now need to go through his attorney to obtain > information (reasonably request) on Aug 9 and on aug 10 they removed > my children. Our in home councilor provided be tananger is even of the > opinion that this is definitely not in the best interest of our > children an opinion which he has shared with the case worker. My four > month old son needs to have his infant massage daily (I had to take a > 6 week course to learn it, it's not something anyone can do and it was > prescribed by his pediatrician) and he is not getting it. Please > anything you can do to help me. I wish we had the resources to help directly. I'm forwarding your message to a few more people who have had experience with this type of thing in the past. I can encourage you to keep your Faith and keep trying to be a parent to your children using positive means. The "system" tries to wear you down (and they have a LOT of resources), but try not to give up. 5. The Lighter Side - how do men think? do men think? men think? ----------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING - DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING BELOW THIS POINT SERIOUSLY, PLEASE. We always hear "the rules" from the female side. Now here are the rules from the male side. Your FEEDBACK welcome! Please note... these rules are all numbered "1" ON PURPOSE! ----------------------------------------------------- 1. Learn to work the toilet seat. You're a big girl. If it's up, put it down. We need it up, you need it down. You don't hear us complaining about you leaving it down. 1. Sunday = sports. It's like the full moon or the changing of the tides. Let it be. 1. Shopping is NOT a sport. And no, we are never going to think of it that way. 1. Crying is blackmail. 1. Ask for what you want. Let us be clear on this one: Subtle hints do not work! Strong hints do not work! Obvious hints do not work! Just say it! 1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question. 1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for. 1. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor. 1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument. In fact, all comments become null and void after 7 days. 1. If you won't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys. 1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us. 1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one. 1. You can either ask us to do something or tell us how you want it done. Not both. If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself. 1. Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during commercials. 1. Christopher Columbus did not need directions and neither do we. 1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings. Peach, for example, is a fruit, not a color. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We have no idea what mauve is. 1. If it itches, it will be scratched. We do that. 1. If we ask what is wrong and you say "nothing," we will act like nothing's wrong. We know you are lying, but it is just not worth the hassle. 1. If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear. 1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is fine. Really. 1. Don't ask us what we're thinking about unless you are prepared to discuss such topics as baseball, the shotgun formation, or monster trucks. 1. You have enough clothes. 1. You have too many shoes. 1. I am in shape. Round is a shape. 1. Thank you for reading this; Yes, I know, I have to sleep on the couch tonight, but did you know men really don't mind that, it's like camping. ------------------------ Webmaster@AKidsRight.Org ================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list at anytime, send email to Majordomo@kids-right.org with the following 1 line in the BODY of the message (Subject is ignored). unsubscribe members
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